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		<title>Comment on Discussing Brew Methods by Ich trinke gerade diesen Aeropress Kaffee... -Seite 16 - Kaffee-Netz - Die Community rund ums Thema Kaffee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ich trinke gerade diesen Aeropress Kaffee... -Seite 16 - Kaffee-Netz - Die Community rund ums Thema Kaffee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 13:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on UK Coffee Consumption 1997-2010 by Pat D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 18:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Intriguing data, it would be interesting to overlay what you have done with economic figures, possibly GDP per capita (I&#039;m no economist!) to see if there is any correlation. </description>
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		<title>Comment on Video 13 &#8211; How does it look by Probleme mit Fausto Malabar - bittere, holzige Crema -Seite 3 - Kaffee-Netz - Die Community rund ums Thema Kaffee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Probleme mit Fausto Malabar - bittere, holzige Crema -Seite 3 - Kaffee-Netz - Die Community rund ums Thema Kaffee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 14:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Discussing Brew Methods by AndyS</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndyS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 02:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It seems to me that many of 3W baristas today spend too much time trying
 to impress others with scientific terms and supposed scientific methods
 - when all our guests want is something great to drink.  To my mind, 
taste is the ultimate measure.&quot;

I&#039;ve yet to meet a barista who valued &quot;impressing others with scientific terms and supposed scientific methods&quot; over taste. To the contrary, everyone I&#039;ve interacted with understands that science and careful measurement are simply a means to an end, great tasting coffee.

 On rare occasions I HAVE met coffee people who are insecure about their ability to do simple math and/or make simple measurements with accuracy. Sometimes these people try and overcompensate by railing against the science types and bragging about their own golden taste buds.

But no matter; whatever one&#039;s preconceptions, consistency, care, open-mindedness and respect for the coffee will win out over all our coffee delusions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It seems to me that many of 3W baristas today spend too much time trying<br />
 to impress others with scientific terms and supposed scientific methods<br />
 &#8211; when all our guests want is something great to drink.  To my mind,<br />
taste is the ultimate measure.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve yet to meet a barista who valued &#8220;impressing others with scientific terms and supposed scientific methods&#8221; over taste. To the contrary, everyone I&#8217;ve interacted with understands that science and careful measurement are simply a means to an end, great tasting coffee.</p>
<p> On rare occasions I HAVE met coffee people who are insecure about their ability to do simple math and/or make simple measurements with accuracy. Sometimes these people try and overcompensate by railing against the science types and bragging about their own golden taste buds.</p>
<p>But no matter; whatever one&#8217;s preconceptions, consistency, care, open-mindedness and respect for the coffee will win out over all our coffee delusions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thinking about barista training by SCAA Instructor Development Program &#171; &#171; jimseven jimseven</title>
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		<dc:creator>SCAA Instructor Development Program &#171; &#171; jimseven jimseven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 15:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Instructor Development Program February 1st, 2012   A while ago I posted about barista training &#8211; and got some great responses.  This is an area that, as an industry, we&#8217;ve certainly [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Discussing Brew Methods by RE: Brew Methods. &#171; CupO&#039;Joe Online</title>
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		<dc:creator>RE: Brew Methods. &#171; CupO&#039;Joe Online</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 03:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I read an interesting blog yesterday that has been mulling over in my head for a day now and it just won&#8217;t escape. It was this Blog about Brew Methods at Jimseven; http://www.jimseven.com/2012/01/28/discussing-brew-methods/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I read an interesting blog yesterday that has been mulling over in my head for a day now and it just won&#8217;t escape. It was this Blog about Brew Methods at Jimseven; <a href="http://www.jimseven.com/2012/01/28/discussing-brew-methods/" rel="nofollow">http://www.jimseven.com/2012/01/28/discussing-brew-methods/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Discussing Brew Methods by Onocoffee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Onocoffee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 20:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Uneven brewing is a problem because it is so hard to measure – outside of taste.&lt;/em&gt;

It seems to me that many of 3W baristas today spend too much time trying to impress others with scientific terms and supposed scientific methods - when all our guests want is something great to drink.  To my mind, taste is the ultimate measure.

In many respects, I liken our craft to that of cooking. There&#039;s definitely a science behind what happens in the pan, and one can take things to the extreme with precise temperature baths and &quot;molecular&quot; techniques, but at the end of the service, we&#039;re just trying to provide something tasty and delicious.

At Spro, we work with many different brew methods on a daily basis, giving us a unique perspective on how these methods (pourover, vac pot, press, eva, clever, aeropress, chemex, cold tower, espresso, viet) affect the flavors of individual coffees.  We also have the interesting journey of seeing how different filters affect each method as well.  One thing I have come to conclusion on is that I don&#039;t much care for metal filters for Chemex, Vac Pot,  and the like.  Of course, I prefer the more traditional approach to the methods (meaning original paper or cloth filters).

Returning to the subject at hand, much of what we do is as instinctual and &quot;artistic&quot; (or craft-based) as a cook. One develops a feel for the craft and the brew and can make minor (or even major) adjustments to the brew mid-cycle as conditions warrant.  To my mind, there&#039;s more to what we do that narrowing it down to exact science.  And while perhaps it&#039;s good to understand that science, I don&#039;t let it overshadow what we do for a living.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Uneven brewing is a problem because it is so hard to measure – outside of taste.</em></p>
<p>It seems to me that many of 3W baristas today spend too much time trying to impress others with scientific terms and supposed scientific methods &#8211; when all our guests want is something great to drink.  To my mind, taste is the ultimate measure.</p>
<p>In many respects, I liken our craft to that of cooking. There&#8217;s definitely a science behind what happens in the pan, and one can take things to the extreme with precise temperature baths and &#8220;molecular&#8221; techniques, but at the end of the service, we&#8217;re just trying to provide something tasty and delicious.</p>
<p>At Spro, we work with many different brew methods on a daily basis, giving us a unique perspective on how these methods (pourover, vac pot, press, eva, clever, aeropress, chemex, cold tower, espresso, viet) affect the flavors of individual coffees.  We also have the interesting journey of seeing how different filters affect each method as well.  One thing I have come to conclusion on is that I don&#8217;t much care for metal filters for Chemex, Vac Pot,  and the like.  Of course, I prefer the more traditional approach to the methods (meaning original paper or cloth filters).</p>
<p>Returning to the subject at hand, much of what we do is as instinctual and &#8220;artistic&#8221; (or craft-based) as a cook. One develops a feel for the craft and the brew and can make minor (or even major) adjustments to the brew mid-cycle as conditions warrant.  To my mind, there&#8217;s more to what we do that narrowing it down to exact science.  And while perhaps it&#8217;s good to understand that science, I don&#8217;t let it overshadow what we do for a living.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Discussing Brew Methods by Mike Haggerton</title>
		<link>http://www.jimseven.com/2012/01/28/discussing-brew-methods/#comment-101729</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Haggerton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 16:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;n by no means &quot;skilled in brewing&quot; but here&#039;s a pointer... I ran an experiment over the course of a few months, aiming to see if beans could be matched to brew methods (based on their inherent characteristics). I fairly quickly realised that unless you build in some form of brewing control to ensure you&#039;re comparing like with like then the comparison is meaningless. Using a TDS meter (even with its accuracy limitations) allows you to adopt the SCAA/SCAE brewing control chart, which enables you to reject any brews that are not comparible due to significantly different TDS and extraction yield. It doesn&#039;t automatically give you the skill to hit a consistent TDS and extraction, but it gives you a greater ability to learn to do so more often. Hope that is helpful in some small way :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;n by no means &#8220;skilled in brewing&#8221; but here&#8217;s a pointer&#8230; I ran an experiment over the course of a few months, aiming to see if beans could be matched to brew methods (based on their inherent characteristics). I fairly quickly realised that unless you build in some form of brewing control to ensure you&#8217;re comparing like with like then the comparison is meaningless. Using a TDS meter (even with its accuracy limitations) allows you to adopt the SCAA/SCAE brewing control chart, which enables you to reject any brews that are not comparible due to significantly different TDS and extraction yield. It doesn&#8217;t automatically give you the skill to hit a consistent TDS and extraction, but it gives you a greater ability to learn to do so more often. Hope that is helpful in some small way :)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Discussing Brew Methods by M</title>
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		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 14:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, after reading this, I spent my sunday brewing the same coffee (Suko Quto washed Sidamo Grade 2) using the same parameters as far as possible (60g/l, 88°C, 1:30min steep chosen rather randomly in an attempt to not disadvantage any method, same grind which was a bit of a guess, too) in a French Press, an AeroPress and a syphon.

While I do follow your theory about how - metal-, paper- and cloth-filtering aside - the coffee shouldn&#039;t taste too different, I simply couldn&#039;t put it into practice on this first run. The three cups tasted vastly different, the differences being what you&#039;d expect from the different methods: sturdy, tasty, dirty French Press; crisp, acidic, clear syphon and obviously awesome all around Aeropress (okay, I may like the Aeropress a bit too much to be objective here).

Bottom line: give it a shot, though... while I couldn&#039;t reproduce the same taste across the different methods, it certainly helped me to nail down the brew-method-specific effects on taste and texture a bit to give me more information to decide in the future which device to put a coffee into if I want to achieve something specific.

Maybe someone more skilled in brewing coffee could get them to taste more similarly, though. I&#039;d be happy if anyone has any pointers on how to re-do this experiment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, after reading this, I spent my sunday brewing the same coffee (Suko Quto washed Sidamo Grade 2) using the same parameters as far as possible (60g/l, 88°C, 1:30min steep chosen rather randomly in an attempt to not disadvantage any method, same grind which was a bit of a guess, too) in a French Press, an AeroPress and a syphon.</p>
<p>While I do follow your theory about how &#8211; metal-, paper- and cloth-filtering aside &#8211; the coffee shouldn&#8217;t taste too different, I simply couldn&#8217;t put it into practice on this first run. The three cups tasted vastly different, the differences being what you&#8217;d expect from the different methods: sturdy, tasty, dirty French Press; crisp, acidic, clear syphon and obviously awesome all around Aeropress (okay, I may like the Aeropress a bit too much to be objective here).</p>
<p>Bottom line: give it a shot, though&#8230; while I couldn&#8217;t reproduce the same taste across the different methods, it certainly helped me to nail down the brew-method-specific effects on taste and texture a bit to give me more information to decide in the future which device to put a coffee into if I want to achieve something specific.</p>
<p>Maybe someone more skilled in brewing coffee could get them to taste more similarly, though. I&#8217;d be happy if anyone has any pointers on how to re-do this experiment.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Discussing Brew Methods by Eduardo Ramos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eduardo Ramos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 07:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off, Kudos James! Great post.  
Nos, can we not out rule that each coffee is roasted differently, even if it is the same coffee?  Therefore it will brew differently?  Like a barista pulling a shot of &quot;X Roaster Blend&quot; at &quot;X Roaster Cafe&quot; vs another wholesale account  where there is barista pulling that same blend at their cafe.  The shots will be different.  So, lets that 5 roasters all roasted the same Single Origin Sidamo Moredocofe, and sent it out to their pertaining cafes, wouldn&#039;t that same coffee taste different from roaster to roaster and brew method to brew method despite it being the same coffee? Also, to add to the siphon discussion.  I too have been unhappy with too hot coffee from siphon.  I have to wait 15 minutes to sip.  So I too began to lower the temperature and elongated the time of brew.  I found it to be a little less sour and more enjoyable.  But at that point i was almost mimicking the clarity or a pour over. So, then I thought Siphon is a big show.  Can we actually come to a consensus on how Siphon should be brewed ideally in regards to temperature?  Don&#039;t  get me wrong, it&#039;s the coolest way to see coffee brewed.  Not too long ago, I started wondering if we are over looking the processing of coffee?  Natural, Honey, Washed, etc.Do certain process shine better under different brew methods?  I&#039;ll leave this question simple as is. Thoughts anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, Kudos James! Great post.  <br />
Nos, can we not out rule that each coffee is roasted differently, even if it is the same coffee?  Therefore it will brew differently?  Like a barista pulling a shot of &#8220;X Roaster Blend&#8221; at &#8220;X Roaster Cafe&#8221; vs another wholesale account  where there is barista pulling that same blend at their cafe.  The shots will be different.  So, lets that 5 roasters all roasted the same Single Origin Sidamo Moredocofe, and sent it out to their pertaining cafes, wouldn&#8217;t that same coffee taste different from roaster to roaster and brew method to brew method despite it being the same coffee? Also, to add to the siphon discussion.  I too have been unhappy with too hot coffee from siphon.  I have to wait 15 minutes to sip.  So I too began to lower the temperature and elongated the time of brew.  I found it to be a little less sour and more enjoyable.  But at that point i was almost mimicking the clarity or a pour over. So, then I thought Siphon is a big show.  Can we actually come to a consensus on how Siphon should be brewed ideally in regards to temperature?  Don&#8217;t  get me wrong, it&#8217;s the coolest way to see coffee brewed.  Not too long ago, I started wondering if we are over looking the processing of coffee?  Natural, Honey, Washed, etc.Do certain process shine better under different brew methods?  I&#8217;ll leave this question simple as is. Thoughts anyone?</p>
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