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		<title>Comment on London Gastronomy &#8211; Cheese by Hugo</title>
		<link>http://www.jimseven.com/2010/03/11/london-gastronomy-cheese/#comment-98572</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I look forward to you post about cheddar... my favourite cheddar isn&#039;t a cheddar at all but most people would call it cheddar, &#039;cos it&#039;s cheddared.  Oops, typing cheddar too much....It&#039;s the unforgettably punchy Lincolnshire Poacher... try it, I recon you&#039;ll love it a little too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I look forward to you post about cheddar&#8230; my favourite cheddar isn&#8217;t a cheddar at all but most people would call it cheddar, &#8216;cos it&#8217;s cheddared.  Oops, typing cheddar too much&#8230;.It&#8217;s the unforgettably punchy Lincolnshire Poacher&#8230; try it, I recon you&#8217;ll love it a little too much.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cappuccino as conflict by Mike McGinness</title>
		<link>http://www.jimseven.com/2010/03/07/cappuccino-as-conflict/#comment-98571</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike McGinness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not about making all cappuccinos tasting the same per se&#039;, but rather giving the customer what they want and expect. If my customer wants a traditional tasting cappuccino I use my Delirium blend. On the other hand I give them options, currently running &quot;Kaldi Bomb&quot; and Kenya Kirinyaga PB in SO grinders. Kaldi Bomb is an Ethiopia blend of 2 WP and 2 DP Ethiopia each melange roasted City and City++, it&#039;s an &quot;Hawaiian Punch&quot; fruit bomb and makes a phenomenal cap&#039;, but not if expecting a traditional cap&#039;. Same goes for the spicy citrusy Kenya.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not about making all cappuccinos tasting the same per se&#8217;, but rather giving the customer what they want and expect. If my customer wants a traditional tasting cappuccino I use my Delirium blend. On the other hand I give them options, currently running &#8220;Kaldi Bomb&#8221; and Kenya Kirinyaga PB in SO grinders. Kaldi Bomb is an Ethiopia blend of 2 WP and 2 DP Ethiopia each melange roasted City and City++, it&#8217;s an &#8220;Hawaiian Punch&#8221; fruit bomb and makes a phenomenal cap&#8217;, but not if expecting a traditional cap&#8217;. Same goes for the spicy citrusy Kenya.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cappuccino as conflict by Michael Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.jimseven.com/2010/03/07/cappuccino-as-conflict/#comment-98569</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think one of the best parts about your blogs is the dialog it opens up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think one of the best parts about your blogs is the dialog it opens up.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Introduction to lipids in coffee by Mike McGinness</title>
		<link>http://www.jimseven.com/2006/10/22/introduction-to-lipids-in-coffee/#comment-98568</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike McGinness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My head hurts! While math was always a strong suite of mine, chemistry was marginal only getting B&#039;s. When my head stops hurting, I&#039;ll go back and read that again, and likely again, and likely again and again so it&#039;ll sink in:-) Great job Jim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My head hurts! While math was always a strong suite of mine, chemistry was marginal only getting B&#8217;s. When my head stops hurting, I&#8217;ll go back and read that again, and likely again, and likely again and again so it&#8217;ll sink in:-) Great job Jim.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cappuccino as conflict by JT</title>
		<link>http://www.jimseven.com/2010/03/07/cappuccino-as-conflict/#comment-98566</link>
		<dc:creator>JT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we all try and make caps that taste the same, then why not just get a food scientist to make a flavouring to add to steamed milk? As baristas are we not supposed to showcase the variety of flavours coffee has to offer? Why would this change with the adding of warm milk?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we all try and make caps that taste the same, then why not just get a food scientist to make a flavouring to add to steamed milk? As baristas are we not supposed to showcase the variety of flavours coffee has to offer? Why would this change with the adding of warm milk?</p>
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		<title>Comment on London Gastronomy &#8211; Cheese by John</title>
		<link>http://www.jimseven.com/2010/03/11/london-gastronomy-cheese/#comment-98565</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 02:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve an English friend visiting at the moment and she brought some cheese with her.  It was a Wensleydale cheese which I had heard off before but never tried. This one had dried apricots in it and it was absolutely wonderful. So good we couldn&#039;t stop and had to eat the whole lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve an English friend visiting at the moment and she brought some cheese with her.  It was a Wensleydale cheese which I had heard off before but never tried. This one had dried apricots in it and it was absolutely wonderful. So good we couldn&#8217;t stop and had to eat the whole lot.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Return of the Uber by James Hoffmann</title>
		<link>http://www.jimseven.com/2010/03/09/return-of-the-uber/#comment-98562</link>
		<dc:creator>James Hoffmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as I understand it the list price is 3900 euro.  No big secret.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I understand it the list price is 3900 euro.  No big secret.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Return of the Uber by Anonymous Coward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous Coward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the Über Boiler is available for purchase, but still Marco seems intent on not making its retail price public. What&#039;s the big secret?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the Über Boiler is available for purchase, but still Marco seems intent on not making its retail price public. What&#8217;s the big secret?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cappuccino as conflict by Peter G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you, James, that the treating of milk as a distasteful adulterant (some baristas do this) is a problem and that the terminology that espresso has to struggle against milk (&quot;cut through&quot; it) is a problem.

Let&#039;s think about the interaction between milk and espresso coffee, though.  This is really a flavor pairing; matching two flavors and blending them for positive culinary effect.  Milk is often used in our cuisine to blend with other flavors.  By far the most common pairing for milk is with what food scientists would call &quot;browning reaction&quot; flavors.  The most common, of course, is chocolate.  Milk chocolate and chocolate milk are so commonplace we forget they are actually blends of two ingredients.  Other famous browning reaction-milk combos are vanilla ice cream, chocolate ice cream, caramel custard (dulce de leche, flan, etc), milk caramels, etc. etc. etc.  For some reason, there is a natural culinary affinity between browning reactions and dairy.  The cappuccino, of course, is the mother of all coffee-and-dairy pairings, and it is a classic marriage of browning reactions in coffee with milk.  Coffee flavor itself is dominated by browning reaction flavors- sweet brown caramel flavors emerge in &quot;full city&quot; type roasts, and as roasts get darker, bittersweet fully caramelized flavors emerge.  Both are traditionally paired with milk all over the culinary landscape.  Therefore, I feel it is fair to say that the &quot;classic&quot; cappuccino flavor is a browning-reaction centric coffee paired with delicious, creamy milk.

I strongly agree with you, James, that there is room to elaborate on this classic.  Although much less popular, fruit-flavor (fruit flavors are associated with enzymes and with acidity) paired with dairy is also popular: lemon posset as you state, strawberries and cream, strawberry ice cream, etc. etc.  It&#039;s not quite as popular as browning-and-dairy, but it occupies a legitimate culinary space.  I agree that there is room for exploration here, but we need to address the simple reality that if people are expecting sugar-browning and milk and get fruit-with-milk, they might justifiably dislike it.  As Amber points out, walking the consumer through the process is the key here.  Just yesterday, I had a delicious confection made for me by a student at the Culinary Institute of America.  It was a passionfruit and vanilla cream ganache, enrobed in bitter chocolate.  It was a delicious balance of creaminess, bittersweet browning flavors, and fruit.  My brother tried it without explanation of what it was, and he hated it.  I had been conditioned to expect this unconventional pairing and loved it.  That&#039;s the way it goes.

As for the competition, I have always seen the cappuccino course as the exercise of &quot;classic&quot;.  It&#039;s like an imaginary steak contest: cook the perfect simple steak, prepare a classic steak bernaise, and then for the final course, prepare a creative signature dish based on  perfectly  cooked steak.  There are rules about bernaise sauce, and the addition of other ingredients would be unwelcome in the French orthodoxy.  I feel that many judges have this idea of &quot;classic&quot; in their minds when they evaluate cappuccinos, and this means browning-and-dairy flavors.  On the one hand I agree that we should be open minded about allowing some experimentation here, but on the other hand I really personally celebrate a barista who creates a perfect, sugar-browning style cappuccino.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you, James, that the treating of milk as a distasteful adulterant (some baristas do this) is a problem and that the terminology that espresso has to struggle against milk (&#8220;cut through&#8221; it) is a problem.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s think about the interaction between milk and espresso coffee, though.  This is really a flavor pairing; matching two flavors and blending them for positive culinary effect.  Milk is often used in our cuisine to blend with other flavors.  By far the most common pairing for milk is with what food scientists would call &#8220;browning reaction&#8221; flavors.  The most common, of course, is chocolate.  Milk chocolate and chocolate milk are so commonplace we forget they are actually blends of two ingredients.  Other famous browning reaction-milk combos are vanilla ice cream, chocolate ice cream, caramel custard (dulce de leche, flan, etc), milk caramels, etc. etc. etc.  For some reason, there is a natural culinary affinity between browning reactions and dairy.  The cappuccino, of course, is the mother of all coffee-and-dairy pairings, and it is a classic marriage of browning reactions in coffee with milk.  Coffee flavor itself is dominated by browning reaction flavors- sweet brown caramel flavors emerge in &#8220;full city&#8221; type roasts, and as roasts get darker, bittersweet fully caramelized flavors emerge.  Both are traditionally paired with milk all over the culinary landscape.  Therefore, I feel it is fair to say that the &#8220;classic&#8221; cappuccino flavor is a browning-reaction centric coffee paired with delicious, creamy milk.</p>
<p>I strongly agree with you, James, that there is room to elaborate on this classic.  Although much less popular, fruit-flavor (fruit flavors are associated with enzymes and with acidity) paired with dairy is also popular: lemon posset as you state, strawberries and cream, strawberry ice cream, etc. etc.  It&#8217;s not quite as popular as browning-and-dairy, but it occupies a legitimate culinary space.  I agree that there is room for exploration here, but we need to address the simple reality that if people are expecting sugar-browning and milk and get fruit-with-milk, they might justifiably dislike it.  As Amber points out, walking the consumer through the process is the key here.  Just yesterday, I had a delicious confection made for me by a student at the Culinary Institute of America.  It was a passionfruit and vanilla cream ganache, enrobed in bitter chocolate.  It was a delicious balance of creaminess, bittersweet browning flavors, and fruit.  My brother tried it without explanation of what it was, and he hated it.  I had been conditioned to expect this unconventional pairing and loved it.  That&#8217;s the way it goes.</p>
<p>As for the competition, I have always seen the cappuccino course as the exercise of &#8220;classic&#8221;.  It&#8217;s like an imaginary steak contest: cook the perfect simple steak, prepare a classic steak bernaise, and then for the final course, prepare a creative signature dish based on  perfectly  cooked steak.  There are rules about bernaise sauce, and the addition of other ingredients would be unwelcome in the French orthodoxy.  I feel that many judges have this idea of &#8220;classic&#8221; in their minds when they evaluate cappuccinos, and this means browning-and-dairy flavors.  On the one hand I agree that we should be open minded about allowing some experimentation here, but on the other hand I really personally celebrate a barista who creates a perfect, sugar-browning style cappuccino.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Evolution my Espresso Thought by AndyS</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndyS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, then we could call you, &quot;Dr. Coffee!&quot;</description>
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