Comments on: The problem with grinders http://www.jimseven.com/2009/12/30/the-problem-with-grinders/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-problem-with-grinders James Hoffmann's blog. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 02:29:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Grinding to order – without clumps | World Barista http://www.jimseven.com/2009/12/30/the-problem-with-grinders/#comment-101082 Grinding to order – without clumps | World Barista Thu, 14 Apr 2011 22:03:23 +0000 http://www.jimseven.com/?p=1363#comment-101082 [...] James Hoffmann [...] [...] James Hoffmann [...]

]]> By: Lavina 32 http://www.jimseven.com/2009/12/30/the-problem-with-grinders/#comment-101063 Lavina 32 Thu, 31 Mar 2011 06:40:00 +0000 http://www.jimseven.com/?p=1363#comment-101063 Very inspirational information. Keep up the good work, and done forget to keep enthusiasm to the readers. Very inspirational information. Keep up the good work, and done forget to keep enthusiasm to the readers.

]]> By: Frank http://www.jimseven.com/2009/12/30/the-problem-with-grinders/#comment-100520 Frank Tue, 14 Dec 2010 10:02:00 +0000 http://www.jimseven.com/?p=1363#comment-100520 True, you forgot about design changes. A new model every year, so the marketing guys have some new fodder and can invent new fancy feature names, but at the end it boils down to the same old thing. True, you forgot about design changes. A new model every year, so the marketing guys have some new fodder and can invent new fancy feature names, but at the end it boils down to the same old thing.

]]> By: Orlando http://www.jimseven.com/2009/12/30/the-problem-with-grinders/#comment-99907 Orlando Fri, 24 Sep 2010 22:53:11 +0000 http://www.jimseven.com/?p=1363#comment-99907 Very nice post and discussion here ! I'm coming late, and as a non professional but as a coffee lover ! If you can add to the list of requirements the one I mention below, and if someone makes it into a real product, I would certainly buy from you one of those ! My requirements: * Can have two or more than two containers for beans to allow use of different beans, and why not "make your own instant blend" (the Versalab allow this is a way, but not perfectly) * Direct to the portafilter with no grind left over anywhere. * Portafilter holder that works * A way to mark / memorize your adjustement of the grinder: I often change beans and go back to beans I know. Different beans requires different adjustment of the grind. I always have to fight to find the perfect adjustementr, even if I know the beans ... would love to have this simply stored by a marker. Thanks for the very interesting and educating discussion in any case ! Very nice post and discussion here !
I’m coming late, and as a non professional but as a coffee lover !

If you can add to the list of requirements the one I mention below, and if someone makes it into a real product, I would certainly buy from you one of those !
My requirements:
* Can have two or more than two containers for beans to allow use of different beans, and why not “make your own instant blend” (the Versalab allow this is a way, but not perfectly)
* Direct to the portafilter with no grind left over anywhere.
* Portafilter holder that works
* A way to mark / memorize your adjustement of the grinder: I often change beans and go back to beans I know. Different beans requires different adjustment of the grind. I always have to fight to find the perfect adjustementr, even if I know the beans … would love to have this simply stored by a marker.

Thanks for the very interesting and educating discussion in any case !

]]> By: Karl http://www.jimseven.com/2009/12/30/the-problem-with-grinders/#comment-99620 Karl Thu, 19 Aug 2010 22:52:04 +0000 http://www.jimseven.com/?p=1363#comment-99620 Don't know if anyone has mentioned this before but. I am thinking there could be a lot to gain with a grinder that would take care of the partical size. And then I am talking about producing fines particulary. Fines, because of their size have the tendency to overextract very rapidly. This goes for espresso as well as even more for the various filter coffee's. I wonder is it just me worrying about this. Or?? Don’t know if anyone has mentioned this before but. I am thinking there could be a lot to gain with a grinder that would take care of the partical size. And then I am talking about producing fines particulary.
Fines, because of their size have the tendency to overextract very rapidly. This goes for espresso as well as even more for the various filter coffee’s. I wonder is it just me worrying about this. Or??

]]> By: Julie http://www.jimseven.com/2009/12/30/the-problem-with-grinders/#comment-99102 Julie Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:25:07 +0000 http://www.jimseven.com/?p=1363#comment-99102 The only one that I could reccommend is the Eureka Mignon. It's not perfect, what is? but it is compact, reasonably priced and solid simple grinder. I have been using it as the main grinder in my small cafe for nearly a year with no problems. The only one that I could reccommend is the Eureka Mignon. It’s not perfect, what is? but it is compact, reasonably priced and solid simple grinder. I have been using it as the main grinder in my small cafe for nearly a year with no problems.

]]> By: dave http://www.jimseven.com/2009/12/30/the-problem-with-grinders/#comment-99100 dave Fri, 11 Jun 2010 08:16:25 +0000 http://www.jimseven.com/?p=1363#comment-99100 yeah I'm on the market for a coffee grinder and having some problems - can't find one which consumers seem to excell in. I spent a long time digging through the reviews here http://www.coffee-maker-review.net/best-coffee-grinders.html .... and also wading through the ones on amazon. This article is right how they don't appear to have changed much in 50 years ! Please recommend one (if anyone can), that you've used from experience - i would appreciate that alot. thank you . yeah I’m on the market for a coffee grinder and having some problems – can’t find one which consumers seem to excell in. I spent a long time digging through the reviews here http://www.coffee-maker-review.net/best-coffee-grinders.html …. and also wading through the ones on amazon. This article is right how they don’t appear to have changed much in 50 years ! Please recommend one (if anyone can), that you’ve used from experience – i would appreciate that alot. thank you .

]]> By: roger barrett http://www.jimseven.com/2009/12/30/the-problem-with-grinders/#comment-98785 roger barrett Fri, 23 Apr 2010 21:03:05 +0000 http://www.jimseven.com/?p=1363#comment-98785 thanks very much for this excellent post jim! wrt the la marzocco disco volante: there have been other macinadosatori which employed this arrangement. one was made by the firm f.a.b.e.r. of italy. i saved some photos of an example only to lose them in a computer disaster. the f.a.b.e.r. had a rectangular painted body but essentially operated the same as the disco volante. btw - i don't believe either of the fifties era units shown in the photo awere made by faema. cannot see close enough detail to hazard a guess as to the mfr. thanks very much for this excellent post jim!

wrt the la marzocco disco volante: there have been other macinadosatori which employed this arrangement. one was made by the firm f.a.b.e.r. of italy. i saved some photos of an example only to lose them in a computer disaster. the f.a.b.e.r. had a rectangular painted body but essentially operated the same as the disco volante.

btw – i don’t believe either of the fifties era units shown in the photo awere made by faema. cannot see close enough detail to hazard a guess as to the mfr.

]]> By: coffee machine http://www.jimseven.com/2009/12/30/the-problem-with-grinders/#comment-98463 coffee machine Mon, 01 Mar 2010 19:15:11 +0000 http://www.jimseven.com/?p=1363#comment-98463 absolutely correct. Those grinders never changed except for the price. My previos grinder has been very faithful for 7 years already and im very satisfied with it. absolutely correct. Those grinders never changed except for the price. My previos grinder has been very faithful for 7 years already and im very satisfied with it.

]]> By: Tom Jagiello http://www.jimseven.com/2009/12/30/the-problem-with-grinders/#comment-98042 Tom Jagiello Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:19:43 +0000 http://www.jimseven.com/?p=1363#comment-98042 Hi Will, that topic is an interesting one, it died a bit though, probably because people don't have time/money and personally I've found that my Mazzer Major works pretty well, so I've lost a bit of motiviation to build anything. Still I'm up for it and would probably be able to produce a working model, the problem is that there's hardly anyone interested in talking about it. Most baristas moan about grinders, but if you ask them what they would like or how they see a properly designed grinder they don't know what to say. Sketchup is not bad, but painful to use sometimes which I've discovered on my own when doing the mockup drawings. Still probably enough to show how the finished grinder would look like. Regards, dsc. Hi Will,

that topic is an interesting one, it died a bit though, probably because people don’t have time/money and personally I’ve found that my Mazzer Major works pretty well, so I’ve lost a bit of motiviation to build anything. Still I’m up for it and would probably be able to produce a working model, the problem is that there’s hardly anyone interested in talking about it. Most baristas moan about grinders, but if you ask them what they would like or how they see a properly designed grinder they don’t know what to say.

Sketchup is not bad, but painful to use sometimes which I’ve discovered on my own when doing the mockup drawings. Still probably enough to show how the finished grinder would look like.

Regards,
dsc.

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