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	<title>Comments on: Agitating the industry</title>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations on the (well-deserved) award, and thanks for your invitation to agitate, an essential part of any process of evolution: agitate, cogitate, innovate!  I would also be very interested in hearing first-hand accounts of the discussion of Fair Trade, which I also understand was engaging if sadly ill-attended.  I know Carolyn Fairman of Coffee Kids was scheduled to talk about that organization&#039;s work at origin, which seems to take as its point of departure the fact that all the sustainability schemes in the world aren&#039;t enough on their own to ensure truly sustainable livelihoods for coffee farmers.  That&#039;s not a slap at Fair Trade or any other certification, but it is an important contribution to our understanding!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations on the (well-deserved) award, and thanks for your invitation to agitate, an essential part of any process of evolution: agitate, cogitate, innovate!  I would also be very interested in hearing first-hand accounts of the discussion of Fair Trade, which I also understand was engaging if sadly ill-attended.  I know Carolyn Fairman of Coffee Kids was scheduled to talk about that organization&#8217;s work at origin, which seems to take as its point of departure the fact that all the sustainability schemes in the world aren&#8217;t enough on their own to ensure truly sustainable livelihoods for coffee farmers.  That&#8217;s not a slap at Fair Trade or any other certification, but it is an important contribution to our understanding!</p>
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		<title>By: Erwin Chuk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erwin Chuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With apologies, a stream of thought...

Good title. Specialty coffee, at the indie level, always seems to be agitating with a swizzle stick...always seems to be &quot;preaching to the choir&quot;. To be sure, education is happening. However, a swizzle stick may work for stirring a coffee cup but it is useless for stirring a pot. Where is the influence? This is where I would see an organization like the SCAA take a role but I haven&#039;t seen the effects as a consumer. Part of the problem is unity. How do you present a simple message with so many members surfing on different waves? Fair Trade, for better or worse, makes it simple for its participants and consumers. I like the idea of condensing words for maximum impact (kind of like a Bruce Lee punch). I&#039;m always excited to see coffee events occurring outside the &quot;coffee community&quot;...evangelization. Interested to hear how your message/goals crystallize around your post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With apologies, a stream of thought&#8230;</p>
<p>Good title. Specialty coffee, at the indie level, always seems to be agitating with a swizzle stick&#8230;always seems to be &#8220;preaching to the choir&#8221;. To be sure, education is happening. However, a swizzle stick may work for stirring a coffee cup but it is useless for stirring a pot. Where is the influence? This is where I would see an organization like the SCAA take a role but I haven&#8217;t seen the effects as a consumer. Part of the problem is unity. How do you present a simple message with so many members surfing on different waves? Fair Trade, for better or worse, makes it simple for its participants and consumers. I like the idea of condensing words for maximum impact (kind of like a Bruce Lee punch). I&#8217;m always excited to see coffee events occurring outside the &#8220;coffee community&#8221;&#8230;evangelization. Interested to hear how your message/goals crystallize around your post.</p>
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		<title>By: nik</title>
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		<dc:creator>nik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>congrats james, you deserve it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>congrats james, you deserve it!</p>
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		<title>By: Wee Chuan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wee Chuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You sure deserve the award for thoughtful and provoking contributions through your coffee blogging space!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You sure deserve the award for thoughtful and provoking contributions through your coffee blogging space!</p>
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