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		<title>By: Probleme mit Fausto Malabar - bittere, holzige Crema -Seite 3 - Kaffee-Netz - Die Community rund ums Thema Kaffee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Probleme mit Fausto Malabar - bittere, holzige Crema -Seite 3 - Kaffee-Netz - Die Community rund ums Thema Kaffee</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Hallie Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hallie Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2011 21:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found that naked portafilters helped me determine the evenness of the bed (especially at first.)  By visually checking my leveled and tamped espresso I often thought that something looked perfectly level when in fact it was slightly tilted, and this was evident when watching the shot from underneath.  This was pretty quickly alleviated, however, and I never again saw much reason to watch the shot every time from below.  But then, I&#039;m one for going by weight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found that naked portafilters helped me determine the evenness of the bed (especially at first.)  By visually checking my leveled and tamped espresso I often thought that something looked perfectly level when in fact it was slightly tilted, and this was evident when watching the shot from underneath.  This was pretty quickly alleviated, however, and I never again saw much reason to watch the shot every time from below.  But then, I&#8217;m one for going by weight.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexandr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexandr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 19:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim, your photos are very delicious! What is the reason of beautiful reddish reflection color of espresso crema? Coffee species, roast style, or what? Im not about good extraction because not all blends give reddish reflection for crema on espresso with good extraction. 

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, your photos are very delicious! What is the reason of beautiful reddish reflection color of espresso crema? Coffee species, roast style, or what? Im not about good extraction because not all blends give reddish reflection for crema on espresso with good extraction. </p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Colin Loh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin Loh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was first introduced to the naked portafilter after reading Dan Kehn&#039;s article on home-barista.com titled &quot;Perfecting the Naked Extraction.&quot; Looking at the beautiful striping and the gooey pour hooked me immediately and had me ordering bottomless portafilters to match my machines. While I now know the end result sometimes doesn&#039;t taste as good as it looks, the naked portafilter is an invaluable tool in helping me perfect my routine - grinding, dosing, tamping, up to cutting the pour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was first introduced to the naked portafilter after reading Dan Kehn&#8217;s article on home-barista.com titled &#8220;Perfecting the Naked Extraction.&#8221; Looking at the beautiful striping and the gooey pour hooked me immediately and had me ordering bottomless portafilters to match my machines. While I now know the end result sometimes doesn&#8217;t taste as good as it looks, the naked portafilter is an invaluable tool in helping me perfect my routine &#8211; grinding, dosing, tamping, up to cutting the pour.</p>
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		<title>By: How does it look? &#171; Espresso &#38; Me&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>How does it look? &#171; Espresso &#38; Me&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tealover77</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tealover77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 10:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IT&#039;S JUST COFFEE...GO OUTSIDE AND GET SOME SUNSHINE!!!</description>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an echo to a lot of what has been said already:

I, along with most I would assume, would Much rather have a homely tasty coffee - rather than beautiful rubbish. That being said,  of course I would prefer tasty AND beautiful coffee.  

One of the advantages of siphon brewing, besides the tasty coffee it can make, to me;  It helps engage the customers at a greater percentage rate than other methods. This makes for less work for the barista. Anything that will help to capture attention, to get them to ask questions, makes all of our lives easier; Allowing more customers to experience amazing coffee. Then you tell them that excellence can be obtained from a simple pour-over method as well? Attainable excellence!

If you were to brew a siphon in the back room, would some of the appeal be lost? I think so. It parallels with coffee as being culinary. You would expect great presentation from a high-end restaurant would you not? You would also expect excellent food. Taste and presentation are inexorably married to each other - probably even more so for those at the top.

Of course there are always those who fetishize anything that is &#039;in the moment&#039;. Some you may be able to talk sense into, some not.  Some will use only coffees they feel taste the best via this method, some will care not. 

 All that being said: Siphon Domes are rubbish :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an echo to a lot of what has been said already:</p>
<p>I, along with most I would assume, would Much rather have a homely tasty coffee &#8211; rather than beautiful rubbish. That being said,  of course I would prefer tasty AND beautiful coffee.  </p>
<p>One of the advantages of siphon brewing, besides the tasty coffee it can make, to me;  It helps engage the customers at a greater percentage rate than other methods. This makes for less work for the barista. Anything that will help to capture attention, to get them to ask questions, makes all of our lives easier; Allowing more customers to experience amazing coffee. Then you tell them that excellence can be obtained from a simple pour-over method as well? Attainable excellence!</p>
<p>If you were to brew a siphon in the back room, would some of the appeal be lost? I think so. It parallels with coffee as being culinary. You would expect great presentation from a high-end restaurant would you not? You would also expect excellent food. Taste and presentation are inexorably married to each other &#8211; probably even more so for those at the top.</p>
<p>Of course there are always those who fetishize anything that is &#8216;in the moment&#8217;. Some you may be able to talk sense into, some not.  Some will use only coffees they feel taste the best via this method, some will care not. </p>
<p> All that being said: Siphon Domes are rubbish :)</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since I can (relatively) easily point to alt.coffee posts I was making back in 1999 and before about certain epiphany moments I experienced at that time with siphon coffee, &lt;b&gt;and&lt;/b&gt; my love for the method has, if anything increased over the last 10 years (geezus has it been that long already?) I feel pretty confident in saying that at least for some siphon ain&#039;t a fad... and there&#039;s a few people from those alt.coffee days who probably feel the same way.

That said, I can remember reading with a fair amount of glee the resurgence of the method with folks like the Barismo people talking about it as the next great thing, and coffeed people talking up the method. I used to bug Vince about getting siphons into Artigiano back in the day... and Alistair at Elysian, and Jeff at Zoka... and probably a few others (I remember talking up restaurateurs about doing a vacpot service in their restaurants, back when I was a helluva lot more naive about the realities of restaurant service staff). I hoped and wished for the day I could walk into a quality-driven cafe and get a vacpot brew. 

I mention all of this because yeah totally, siphon coffee is the &quot;next big thing&quot; and what the cool kids are pursuing right now. Intelly&#039;s got their slow bar. 49th&#039;s got their hario stations. I half expected 15th Ave Coffee and Tea to set up a multi-siphon station next to their Clovers... er Starbucks Gourmet Extraction Units. Gotta say I love the fact that this is the trendy thing to do today - wishes can come true  lol :)

I really, really hope that siphon stays around and is not a flash in the pan... because for me at least, I&#039;ve gotten more satisfying cups off a siphon than any other non-espresso brewing method in the past 10 years. But, in reading siphon history (especially with regards to commercial use - widespread in the US prior to WWII) siphon coffee isn&#039;t for the faint of heart. It is very user-involved. It&#039;s not easy to clean or maintain. It saw commercial death for these very reasons. 

This time around, the people promoting siphon coffee in commercial venues are arguably much more quality driven than the typical 1930s diner brewer running six Corys on a multi electrical burner station. The owners recognize the brewing standard the siphon is capable of, and want it. Staffing&#039;s another issue. I&#039;ve had some very bad siphon coffees in some of these new siphon-enabled cafes, and it is all down to operator error in most cases. 

I also worry that form over function (or taste) is a concern. When Barismo (sorry to single them out - but hey, they were at the forefront of this) and others started promoting the dome and the &quot;ritual of the stir&quot; I starting thinking - really? Domeporn is that important? Like many I did my fair share of experimentation with stirs, with time, with when to add the coffee, yada yada, and at least in my own testing, stirs at the end, cloths wrapped about the siphon bowl, etc contributed nothing positive to the taste, and even some potential cup defects. Because of this, whenever stirs as a subject came up, I&#039;d promote stirring at the start to saturate grounds, and leave the siphon alone after that. I remember one discussion on CG forums where someone actually said &quot;but then you won&#039;t have that beautiful dome of coffee!&quot; or something like that and I was flashing back to crazy latte art discussions all over again.

All of this said, I don&#039;t deny the fact that some folks who preach the dome stir method aren&#039;t getting some great cups of coffee from their practiced and tried methods. The problem here is I&#039;ve seen advice saying &quot;you should see a nearly perfect dome, with dimples / craters as the coffee is vacuumed dry&quot; etc etc and really, come on, that&#039;s totally irrelevant advice with regards to &lt;b&gt;how the coffee should come to be&lt;/b&gt;.  I&#039;ve seen domestirs that come out with loopy domes and the coffee tastes fine. Cuz the dome is loopy, should I expect something is wrong?

This is my long rambling way of saying that, at least when it comes to siphon coffee, I am firmly convinced there is no pretty aesthetic to indicate a great cup vs. a bad cup. In fact, lately I&#039;ve come to believe that certain aesthetics could in fact be indicators of potential problems. Here&#039;s one example: Since getting the hario halogen burner, I&#039;ve discovered that the more gentle brewing processes throughout (kick up, saturation time, kick down all being remarkably more &quot;gentle&quot;, even, slow than with butane burners or cloth wicks) usually contributes to a better cup. A short time ago we did a small and very informal siphon test in the Lab - head to head brews, halogen burner vs butane, every other factor kept as even as possible (steep time, stirs applied, filters used, volume of water, grind fineness, etc). We even finessed the butane burner to be as gentle as possible, controlling the flame quite a bit after the water kicked up.

Long story short, the butane was a FAIL compared to the halogen in terms of taste. The main differences were how the brew happened - butane kicked up hot water quicker; it created more turbulence in the top portion; it somehow contributed to a more rapid kickdown, including some minor foaming in the bottom bowl.  

But a rapid kickdown with some nice foamy action looks cool :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I can (relatively) easily point to alt.coffee posts I was making back in 1999 and before about certain epiphany moments I experienced at that time with siphon coffee, <b>and</b> my love for the method has, if anything increased over the last 10 years (geezus has it been that long already?) I feel pretty confident in saying that at least for some siphon ain&#8217;t a fad&#8230; and there&#8217;s a few people from those alt.coffee days who probably feel the same way.</p>
<p>That said, I can remember reading with a fair amount of glee the resurgence of the method with folks like the Barismo people talking about it as the next great thing, and coffeed people talking up the method. I used to bug Vince about getting siphons into Artigiano back in the day&#8230; and Alistair at Elysian, and Jeff at Zoka&#8230; and probably a few others (I remember talking up restaurateurs about doing a vacpot service in their restaurants, back when I was a helluva lot more naive about the realities of restaurant service staff). I hoped and wished for the day I could walk into a quality-driven cafe and get a vacpot brew. </p>
<p>I mention all of this because yeah totally, siphon coffee is the &#8220;next big thing&#8221; and what the cool kids are pursuing right now. Intelly&#8217;s got their slow bar. 49th&#8217;s got their hario stations. I half expected 15th Ave Coffee and Tea to set up a multi-siphon station next to their Clovers&#8230; er Starbucks Gourmet Extraction Units. Gotta say I love the fact that this is the trendy thing to do today &#8211; wishes can come true  lol :)</p>
<p>I really, really hope that siphon stays around and is not a flash in the pan&#8230; because for me at least, I&#8217;ve gotten more satisfying cups off a siphon than any other non-espresso brewing method in the past 10 years. But, in reading siphon history (especially with regards to commercial use &#8211; widespread in the US prior to WWII) siphon coffee isn&#8217;t for the faint of heart. It is very user-involved. It&#8217;s not easy to clean or maintain. It saw commercial death for these very reasons. </p>
<p>This time around, the people promoting siphon coffee in commercial venues are arguably much more quality driven than the typical 1930s diner brewer running six Corys on a multi electrical burner station. The owners recognize the brewing standard the siphon is capable of, and want it. Staffing&#8217;s another issue. I&#8217;ve had some very bad siphon coffees in some of these new siphon-enabled cafes, and it is all down to operator error in most cases. </p>
<p>I also worry that form over function (or taste) is a concern. When Barismo (sorry to single them out &#8211; but hey, they were at the forefront of this) and others started promoting the dome and the &#8220;ritual of the stir&#8221; I starting thinking &#8211; really? Domeporn is that important? Like many I did my fair share of experimentation with stirs, with time, with when to add the coffee, yada yada, and at least in my own testing, stirs at the end, cloths wrapped about the siphon bowl, etc contributed nothing positive to the taste, and even some potential cup defects. Because of this, whenever stirs as a subject came up, I&#8217;d promote stirring at the start to saturate grounds, and leave the siphon alone after that. I remember one discussion on CG forums where someone actually said &#8220;but then you won&#8217;t have that beautiful dome of coffee!&#8221; or something like that and I was flashing back to crazy latte art discussions all over again.</p>
<p>All of this said, I don&#8217;t deny the fact that some folks who preach the dome stir method aren&#8217;t getting some great cups of coffee from their practiced and tried methods. The problem here is I&#8217;ve seen advice saying &#8220;you should see a nearly perfect dome, with dimples / craters as the coffee is vacuumed dry&#8221; etc etc and really, come on, that&#8217;s totally irrelevant advice with regards to <b>how the coffee should come to be</b>.  I&#8217;ve seen domestirs that come out with loopy domes and the coffee tastes fine. Cuz the dome is loopy, should I expect something is wrong?</p>
<p>This is my long rambling way of saying that, at least when it comes to siphon coffee, I am firmly convinced there is no pretty aesthetic to indicate a great cup vs. a bad cup. In fact, lately I&#8217;ve come to believe that certain aesthetics could in fact be indicators of potential problems. Here&#8217;s one example: Since getting the hario halogen burner, I&#8217;ve discovered that the more gentle brewing processes throughout (kick up, saturation time, kick down all being remarkably more &#8220;gentle&#8221;, even, slow than with butane burners or cloth wicks) usually contributes to a better cup. A short time ago we did a small and very informal siphon test in the Lab &#8211; head to head brews, halogen burner vs butane, every other factor kept as even as possible (steep time, stirs applied, filters used, volume of water, grind fineness, etc). We even finessed the butane burner to be as gentle as possible, controlling the flame quite a bit after the water kicked up.</p>
<p>Long story short, the butane was a FAIL compared to the halogen in terms of taste. The main differences were how the brew happened &#8211; butane kicked up hot water quicker; it created more turbulence in the top portion; it somehow contributed to a more rapid kickdown, including some minor foaming in the bottom bowl.  </p>
<p>But a rapid kickdown with some nice foamy action looks cool :)</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A barista I know once said that a nice rosetta on top of your coffee doesn&#039;t make it a nice tasting dito. I think that about sums it up, when discussing the looks of the coffee. I think that the final taste is what counts at the end of the day, even though it&#039;s always nice pouring smashing latte-art. On good or bad coffee alike... Very nice blog, this one, by the way. Keep it up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A barista I know once said that a nice rosetta on top of your coffee doesn&#8217;t make it a nice tasting dito. I think that about sums it up, when discussing the looks of the coffee. I think that the final taste is what counts at the end of the day, even though it&#8217;s always nice pouring smashing latte-art. On good or bad coffee alike&#8230; Very nice blog, this one, by the way. Keep it up!</p>
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		<title>By: Bikelawya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bikelawya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 05:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Hoffman: Thanks so much for the vids. They are always informative, and I enjoy them.  The visual is a minor point in my brewing. Smell and taste are also important. I appreciate the reality check on Siphon brewing. I have been a little carried away with it lately, especially since I had a religious experience with it at Blue Bottle in San Francisco--where I live.  I confess my sins, and will be returning to my La Pavoni in the morning.  But honestly my kitchen has the Pavoni, Chemex, Vacu Brew, French Press, etc.... and I love to switch off and enjoy!

Keep up the inspiration!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Hoffman: Thanks so much for the vids. They are always informative, and I enjoy them.  The visual is a minor point in my brewing. Smell and taste are also important. I appreciate the reality check on Siphon brewing. I have been a little carried away with it lately, especially since I had a religious experience with it at Blue Bottle in San Francisco&#8211;where I live.  I confess my sins, and will be returning to my La Pavoni in the morning.  But honestly my kitchen has the Pavoni, Chemex, Vacu Brew, French Press, etc&#8230;. and I love to switch off and enjoy!</p>
<p>Keep up the inspiration!</p>
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