Comments on: Videocast #4 – Stovetop/Moka Pot http://www.jimseven.com/2009/01/21/videocast-4-stovetopmoka-pot/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=videocast-4-stovetopmoka-pot James Hoffmann's blog. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 02:29:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Warum kaltes Wasser in die Bialetti? - Kaffee-Netz - Die Community rund ums Thema Kaffee http://www.jimseven.com/2009/01/21/videocast-4-stovetopmoka-pot/#comment-101311 Warum kaltes Wasser in die Bialetti? - Kaffee-Netz - Die Community rund ums Thema Kaffee Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:18:55 +0000 http://www.jimseven.com/?p=791#comment-101311 [...] [...] [...] [...]

]]> By: Commercial Coffee http://www.jimseven.com/2009/01/21/videocast-4-stovetopmoka-pot/#comment-101291 Commercial Coffee Thu, 07 Jul 2011 05:19:00 +0000 http://www.jimseven.com/?p=791#comment-101291 Good post by authour on Videocast  4   StovetopMoka Pot Good post by authour on Videocast  4   StovetopMoka Pot

]]> By: Rohan Deshpande http://www.jimseven.com/2009/01/21/videocast-4-stovetopmoka-pot/#comment-100922 Rohan Deshpande Fri, 11 Mar 2011 03:29:00 +0000 http://www.jimseven.com/?p=791#comment-100922 You know what's weird? I make mine in a bit of a different way (some steps are the same), and my coffee turns out great. I'm wondering how much is dependent on the actual stove top you use. Anyway here is what I do: 1. Use filtered cold water 2. Fill up to the desired level (don't ever go over the valve). 3. Use a coffee measure spoon to put in as many cups as you want. I bought one where one scoop = one cup and it's pretty much spot on. 4. Level off the coffee. 5. Turn the heat on and wait. 6. Now, here is where mine differs the most - do not take it off the heat until the coffee itself is actually boiling. Why? I've found that this is the only way to be certain that all the water from the bottom has actually ended up at the top. Whenever the coffee has tasted bad, I've checked the bottom and there was water left in there. When it's been great, never any water in the bottom. This is just what I've learnt, not sure of the science behind it but yeah... The coffee is never bitter, always smooth. Try it out let me know what you think! You know what’s weird? I make mine in a bit of a different way (some steps are the same), and my coffee turns out great.

I’m wondering how much is dependent on the actual stove top you use.

Anyway here is what I do:

1. Use filtered cold water
2. Fill up to the desired level (don’t ever go over the valve).
3. Use a coffee measure spoon to put in as many cups as you want. I bought one where one scoop = one cup and it’s pretty much spot on.
4. Level off the coffee.
5. Turn the heat on and wait.
6. Now, here is where mine differs the most – do not take it off the heat until the coffee itself is actually boiling. Why? I’ve found that this is the only way to be certain that all the water from the bottom has actually ended up at the top. Whenever the coffee has tasted bad, I’ve checked the bottom and there was water left in there. When it’s been great, never any water in the bottom. This is just what I’ve learnt, not sure of the science behind it but yeah…

The coffee is never bitter, always smooth. Try it out let me know what you think!

]]> By: Andrew http://www.jimseven.com/2009/01/21/videocast-4-stovetopmoka-pot/#comment-100772 Andrew Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:12:00 +0000 http://www.jimseven.com/?p=791#comment-100772 I like the method; never before had I considered using hot water to start out with. As for the presentation, visually everything was quite clear, and while the music was pleasant, I found it to be too 'full' to accompany the video appropriately. The beat was a bit too driving, and vocals were somewhat distracting, as though they were competing with the explanatory text in the video for the part of my brain that processes words. Personally, I think a sort of minimal techno may have been more appropriate in this situation. Thanks for the video! I like the method; never before had I considered using hot water to start out with.
As for the presentation, visually everything was quite clear, and while the music was pleasant, I found it to be too ‘full’ to accompany the video appropriately. The beat was a bit too driving, and vocals were somewhat distracting, as though they were competing with the explanatory text in the video for the part of my brain that processes words. Personally, I think a sort of minimal techno may have been more appropriate in this situation.
Thanks for the video!

]]> By: Why is coffee from a percolator considered "bad"? - Quora http://www.jimseven.com/2009/01/21/videocast-4-stovetopmoka-pot/#comment-100688 Why is coffee from a percolator considered "bad"? - Quora Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:01:57 +0000 http://www.jimseven.com/?p=791#comment-100688 [...] pot/Stove Top can be very good though and the following brew guide from @jimseven is very helpfulhttp://www.jimseven.com/2009/01/...Insert a dynamic date hereCannot add comment at this [...] [...] pot/Stove Top can be very good though and the following brew guide from @jimseven is very helpfulhttp://www.jimseven.com/2009/01/…Insert a dynamic date hereCannot add comment at this [...]

]]> By: Neill http://www.jimseven.com/2009/01/21/videocast-4-stovetopmoka-pot/#comment-99164 Neill Tue, 22 Jun 2010 00:50:11 +0000 http://www.jimseven.com/?p=791#comment-99164 I use an induction stove and a stainless moka pot. I've found slow, gentle heat gets the best flavor and extraction. I don't see the point of using hot water in the moka pot, unless for some reason you already have it boiling and ready to go. Personally I just use cool (softened) water from the tap or a water filter. Your video shows the coffee really shooting out, and I think you'll find the flavor to be much more balanced yet concentrated if you turn down the heat so it starts with a very very slow trickle. It won't get to a very heavy flow but you will have one definite whoosh of foam at the end. No bitterness, no burnt taste, just very concentrated coffee. What I think happens is the coffee gets primed slowly with some cooler water first, and the wet grounds slow the uptake of heat as the water gets closer to boiling. End result = no bitter over-extraction. I use an induction stove and a stainless moka pot. I’ve found slow, gentle heat gets the best flavor and extraction. I don’t see the point of using hot water in the moka pot, unless for some reason you already have it boiling and ready to go. Personally I just use cool (softened) water from the tap or a water filter.
Your video shows the coffee really shooting out, and I think you’ll find the flavor to be much more balanced yet concentrated if you turn down the heat so it starts with a very very slow trickle. It won’t get to a very heavy flow but you will have one definite whoosh of foam at the end. No bitterness, no burnt taste, just very concentrated coffee.
What I think happens is the coffee gets primed slowly with some cooler water first, and the wet grounds slow the uptake of heat as the water gets closer to boiling. End result = no bitter over-extraction.

]]> By: En http://www.jimseven.com/2009/01/21/videocast-4-stovetopmoka-pot/#comment-99018 En Mon, 24 May 2010 01:49:52 +0000 http://www.jimseven.com/?p=791#comment-99018 I love the info on this site Jim. Just thought i might add a little experiment of my own. When i use a stovetop i start with cold water but put 2 small ice cubes in the top part to counteract the over heating effect. I got this idea from reading about the way an "Atomic" uses its long kneck as a heat sink to prevent boiling water burning the coffee. You just have to make sure your coffee maker has the channel around the outside of the coffee grounds chamber (like the one in the vid) so the ice melts and a coolant forms to stop unwanted heat travelling up the metal. It is also important to make sure the gas flame isn't wider than the base of the pot to prevent excess heating of the pots exterior. This is just my own experience and i dont expect everyone to agree. Just another trick to try if you like experimenting with brewing techniques. Cheers! I love the info on this site Jim.

Just thought i might add a little experiment of my own.
When i use a stovetop i start with cold water but put 2 small ice cubes in the top part to counteract the over heating effect.
I got this idea from reading about the way an “Atomic” uses its long kneck as a heat sink to prevent boiling water burning the coffee.
You just have to make sure your coffee maker has the channel around the outside of the coffee grounds chamber (like the one in the vid) so the ice melts and a coolant forms to stop unwanted heat travelling up the metal.
It is also important to make sure the gas flame isn’t wider than the base of the pot to prevent excess heating of the pots exterior.
This is just my own experience and i dont expect everyone to agree. Just another trick to try if you like experimenting with brewing techniques.

Cheers!

]]> By: Steff http://www.jimseven.com/2009/01/21/videocast-4-stovetopmoka-pot/#comment-98660 Steff Thu, 25 Mar 2010 15:45:11 +0000 http://www.jimseven.com/?p=791#comment-98660 Hey Nice Video... I've been doing it this way for years (except for the wet cloth part), and it really does produce a great tasting americano! Hey Nice Video…

I’ve been doing it this way for years (except for the wet cloth part), and it really does produce a great tasting americano!

]]> By: Kupeovics http://www.jimseven.com/2009/01/21/videocast-4-stovetopmoka-pot/#comment-98045 Kupeovics Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:06:41 +0000 http://www.jimseven.com/?p=791#comment-98045 I want to agree about the larger pots producing inferior coffee. I need to test more, but it's so discouraging to waste so much coffee while working with the bigger pots. I picked up a 4 cup Bialetti Musa like the one in this video and made decent coffee from it with these instructions. However, I found a much prettier 6 cup Erikka for cheap and returned my ugly blue-handled Musa. So far, I find it makes inferior coffee and way more than I want to drink. I guess that's what I get for being drawn in by looks. I'll keep working with it though and see if I can produce good results. I'll post again if I do. I want to agree about the larger pots producing inferior coffee. I need to test more, but it’s so discouraging to waste so much coffee while working with the bigger pots. I picked up a 4 cup Bialetti Musa like the one in this video and made decent coffee from it with these instructions. However, I found a much prettier 6 cup Erikka for cheap and returned my ugly blue-handled Musa. So far, I find it makes inferior coffee and way more than I want to drink. I guess that’s what I get for being drawn in by looks. I’ll keep working with it though and see if I can produce good results. I’ll post again if I do.

]]> By: Lauwarmer Espresso?!?! - Kaffee-Netz - Die Community rund ums Thema Kaffee http://www.jimseven.com/2009/01/21/videocast-4-stovetopmoka-pot/#comment-97411 Lauwarmer Espresso?!?! - Kaffee-Netz - Die Community rund ums Thema Kaffee Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:19:21 +0000 http://www.jimseven.com/?p=791#comment-97411 [...] [...] [...] [...]

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