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	<title>Comments on: The Bodum Kona</title>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://www.jimseven.com/2007/12/04/the-bodum-kona/#comment-96233</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 06:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I can find the time, I would love to design a metal filter for the chemex that would fit as snug as the paper filter does. It would at least be a fun experiment. 

On the flip side has anyone tried using a chemex paper filter on a Kona and cupped the results side by side a chemex brew? It would be interesting to see if there is that much of a difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I can find the time, I would love to design a metal filter for the chemex that would fit as snug as the paper filter does. It would at least be a fun experiment. </p>
<p>On the flip side has anyone tried using a chemex paper filter on a Kona and cupped the results side by side a chemex brew? It would be interesting to see if there is that much of a difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.jimseven.com/2007/12/04/the-bodum-kona/#comment-89450</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a note for those in the UK - the Bodum factory outlet in Bicester Village, Oxfordshire has the Kona for £11 at the moment.

They&#039;ve also got a more complex model with a double-walled flask which is supposedly down from something like £80 to £20 - though it uses the same filter as the Kona. For those interested in experimenting, they&#039;ve got a stack of the filters on their own for £5</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a note for those in the UK &#8211; the Bodum factory outlet in Bicester Village, Oxfordshire has the Kona for £11 at the moment.</p>
<p>They&#8217;ve also got a more complex model with a double-walled flask which is supposedly down from something like £80 to £20 &#8211; though it uses the same filter as the Kona. For those interested in experimenting, they&#8217;ve got a stack of the filters on their own for £5</p>
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		<title>By: Jaime</title>
		<link>http://www.jimseven.com/2007/12/04/the-bodum-kona/#comment-88306</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 03:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am working the second method and yes, you need a good pitcher.  The fancy one he has will only set you back about $150USD.

Unless you are brewing darker roasts, try imitating his method and see how it comes out.  Don&#039;t break the edge!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am working the second method and yes, you need a good pitcher.  The fancy one he has will only set you back about $150USD.</p>
<p>Unless you are brewing darker roasts, try imitating his method and see how it comes out.  Don&#8217;t break the edge!</p>
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		<title>By: James Hoffmann</title>
		<link>http://www.jimseven.com/2007/12/04/the-bodum-kona/#comment-88301</link>
		<dc:creator>James Hoffmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 21:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jaime - I&#039;ve been using more of the second method with my Chemex, though I had been hesitant to soak/bloom for that long.  I tried the first method this morning, but found it really hard to control the water the way he does.  I need one of those pouring thingymajigs.  It felt weird to pour so centrally though.  Plus I need at least 2-3oz to evenly soak my 30g of coffee.  Great video though, and yes - it is about time I got into syphon brewing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jaime &#8211; I&#8217;ve been using more of the second method with my Chemex, though I had been hesitant to soak/bloom for that long.  I tried the first method this morning, but found it really hard to control the water the way he does.  I need one of those pouring thingymajigs.  It felt weird to pour so centrally though.  Plus I need at least 2-3oz to evenly soak my 30g of coffee.  Great video though, and yes &#8211; it is about time I got into syphon brewing.</p>
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		<title>By: Wilson Hines</title>
		<link>http://www.jimseven.com/2007/12/04/the-bodum-kona/#comment-88298</link>
		<dc:creator>Wilson Hines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 13:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saw a Kona yesterday at Coffee &amp;  Crema in Greenville, SC.  Via your other post the other day I was studying that thing.  

Sure would make a nice Christmas gift!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw a Kona yesterday at Coffee &amp;  Crema in Greenville, SC.  Via your other post the other day I was studying that thing.  </p>
<p>Sure would make a nice Christmas gift!</p>
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		<title>By: Jaime</title>
		<link>http://www.jimseven.com/2007/12/04/the-bodum-kona/#comment-88295</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 04:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is your &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.barismo.com/2007/10/saw-this-on-saueshen-s-blog.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; pour over method&lt;/a&gt; similar?

Re vac pot, nothing good comes easy.  I encourage serious coffee enthusiasts to give syphon a try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is your <a href="http://www.barismo.com/2007/10/saw-this-on-saueshen-s-blog.html" rel="nofollow"> pour over method</a> similar?</p>
<p>Re vac pot, nothing good comes easy.  I encourage serious coffee enthusiasts to give syphon a try.</p>
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		<title>By: James Hoffmann</title>
		<link>http://www.jimseven.com/2007/12/04/the-bodum-kona/#comment-88292</link>
		<dc:creator>James Hoffmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 22:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I needed a fair amount of coffee this afternoon to speed me through the accounting.  Made a Kona of the Daterra first, and then later made a Chemex of it - same ratio, slightly coarser grind.  The Chemex was a much better, sweeter and cleaner cup.  I will conquer this Bodum eventually! (changing my water pouring has improved the cup - much more gentle as per Lukas&#039; recommendation...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I needed a fair amount of coffee this afternoon to speed me through the accounting.  Made a Kona of the Daterra first, and then later made a Chemex of it &#8211; same ratio, slightly coarser grind.  The Chemex was a much better, sweeter and cleaner cup.  I will conquer this Bodum eventually! (changing my water pouring has improved the cup &#8211; much more gentle as per Lukas&#8217; recommendation&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Callahan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Callahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 22:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just had a fantastic cup this morning of 66%PNG Sigri 33%Harrar with a water temp of around 94degreesC.  Deep barky/nuttiness on the nose, good body, enriched bitter-sweet liqourich with slight berry-cocoa tones, finishes with a lingering earthy terrior flavour.
Can&#039;t wait to start the day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just had a fantastic cup this morning of 66%PNG Sigri 33%Harrar with a water temp of around 94degreesC.  Deep barky/nuttiness on the nose, good body, enriched bitter-sweet liqourich with slight berry-cocoa tones, finishes with a lingering earthy terrior flavour.<br />
Can&#8217;t wait to start the day!</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Callahan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Callahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 08:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In the gold filter, and any Melitta style filter, the brew can flow out anywhere.&quot;  While this is true, i think you&#039;ll find that the vast majority of brew DOES flow from the base of the cone.
Still early days testing for me, however i&#039;m using a ratio of around 10g coffee per 100ml h20 (1:10 approx).  I pour to the center then spiral outwards to allow for maximum soaking and allow for upto 40sec &#039;bloom&#039; (i wait till the water just stops to &#039;shine&#039; off of the coffee and the coffee begins to look like it&#039;s dying).  Then i continue a steady, slow pour until i&#039;ve reached the desired limit of liquid.  At the moment i&#039;m testing using indian monsooned malabar robusta as i&#039;m trying to find a positive tasting and cost effective way to provide customers who order their coffee &#039;strong&#039; without wanting an extra shot at my cafe.  So far by adding 30mls of the kona brew to their (say) latte, i&#039;ve been getting very positive results.  I should also mention that for the grind i&#039;m currently grinding as fine as posible without allowing the coffee to slip or sludge through the gold filter when water is added.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In the gold filter, and any Melitta style filter, the brew can flow out anywhere.&#8221;  While this is true, i think you&#8217;ll find that the vast majority of brew DOES flow from the base of the cone.<br />
Still early days testing for me, however i&#8217;m using a ratio of around 10g coffee per 100ml h20 (1:10 approx).  I pour to the center then spiral outwards to allow for maximum soaking and allow for upto 40sec &#8216;bloom&#8217; (i wait till the water just stops to &#8217;shine&#8217; off of the coffee and the coffee begins to look like it&#8217;s dying).  Then i continue a steady, slow pour until i&#8217;ve reached the desired limit of liquid.  At the moment i&#8217;m testing using indian monsooned malabar robusta as i&#8217;m trying to find a positive tasting and cost effective way to provide customers who order their coffee &#8217;strong&#8217; without wanting an extra shot at my cafe.  So far by adding 30mls of the kona brew to their (say) latte, i&#8217;ve been getting very positive results.  I should also mention that for the grind i&#8217;m currently grinding as fine as posible without allowing the coffee to slip or sludge through the gold filter when water is added.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 05:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The main thing I found with the kona is you need to do a good sized pot for it to work properly; a 350mL mug size won&#039;t offer enough resistance/dwell time.  Getting rid of paper is the main thing, but I&#039;ve been using cilio 1 hole ceramic with swissgold no4 filters for my filter coffee on bar...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main thing I found with the kona is you need to do a good sized pot for it to work properly; a 350mL mug size won&#8217;t offer enough resistance/dwell time.  Getting rid of paper is the main thing, but I&#8217;ve been using cilio 1 hole ceramic with swissgold no4 filters for my filter coffee on bar&#8230;</p>
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