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		<title>By: LTT Vending</title>
		<link>http://www.jimseven.com/2006/07/31/5-reasons-your-coffee-tastes-bad/#comment-101433</link>
		<dc:creator>LTT Vending</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 14:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your blog rightly identifies at that is bad with bean to cup coffee. Unless you&#039;re visiting a barsita coffee shop it is impossible to get a consistant quality of bean to cup coffee, you are very right most people don&#039;t realise that coffee beans begin to go stale after just three day, and to properly clean a bean to cup machine takes about an hour a week!! This is why bean to cup coffee machines are not suitable for busy professional offices where staff satisfaction and customer impressions are of upmost importance. It is vital to recognise that beans to cup coffee is not neccessarily the highest quality and that sometimes a high quality freshly ground coffee, that is prevented from going stale and therfore degrading in taste would be a more suitable hot drinks solution for most office locations. The Flavia Creation 400 coffee machine does just that, serving up to 25 coffee shop quality hot drinks, with a maximum time spent cleaning per week of 10 mintues! That&#039;s what makes the Flavia 400 the UK&#039;s best selling office coffee machine </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your blog rightly identifies at that is bad with bean to cup coffee. Unless you&#8217;re visiting a barsita coffee shop it is impossible to get a consistant quality of bean to cup coffee, you are very right most people don&#8217;t realise that coffee beans begin to go stale after just three day, and to properly clean a bean to cup machine takes about an hour a week!! This is why bean to cup coffee machines are not suitable for busy professional offices where staff satisfaction and customer impressions are of upmost importance. It is vital to recognise that beans to cup coffee is not neccessarily the highest quality and that sometimes a high quality freshly ground coffee, that is prevented from going stale and therfore degrading in taste would be a more suitable hot drinks solution for most office locations. The Flavia Creation 400 coffee machine does just that, serving up to 25 coffee shop quality hot drinks, with a maximum time spent cleaning per week of 10 mintues! That&#8217;s what makes the Flavia 400 the UK&#8217;s best selling office coffee machine</p>
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		<title>By: Raymond Washington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raymond Washington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 04:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like your comment on starbucks coffee. It seems to smell like wet cigarrettes. I remember when I was a kid and my grandparrents would perk coffee and you could smell it all the way down the street. Today you could stick your nose in a can of coffee and smell nothing. The main reason I began drinking coffee is because of the flavor and aroma. What is going on? America is being cheated out of a good cup of coffee. I could pay ten dollars for a can of coffee and it would not be any better than the can I spent three dollars for. Knowone doesn&#039;t seem to know what coffee is anymore. What the heck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your comment on starbucks coffee. It seems to smell like wet cigarrettes. I remember when I was a kid and my grandparrents would perk coffee and you could smell it all the way down the street. Today you could stick your nose in a can of coffee and smell nothing. The main reason I began drinking coffee is because of the flavor and aroma. What is going on? America is being cheated out of a good cup of coffee. I could pay ten dollars for a can of coffee and it would not be any better than the can I spent three dollars for. Knowone doesn&#8217;t seem to know what coffee is anymore. What the heck!</p>
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		<title>By: cat!</title>
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		<dc:creator>cat!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2010 18:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan,
I am very surprised to learn that coffee in UK is not good.
How about food in general?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,<br />
I am very surprised to learn that coffee in UK is not good.<br />
How about food in general?</p>
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		<title>By: cat!</title>
		<link>http://www.jimseven.com/2006/07/31/5-reasons-your-coffee-tastes-bad/#comment-100176</link>
		<dc:creator>cat!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2010 18:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Let me tell you the simplest secret why coffee taste so bad!!!! It is not coffee at all. It has neither taste nor aroma of a real coffee. I have tasted every brand of coffee, including Starbucks, even tried so-called Organic coffee. You know what ?They all taste horrible. Either you buy from Aldi or from World Market, they are all the same. They are either tasteless bitter-tasteless, or simply taste like smoked cigarette tobacco. What it is , I think is some kind of a hybrid (mix of grass and artificial coffee beans). As of why you might ask me does coffee beans looks like beans and smell like coffee before you brew them? My best bet is that manufacturers simply spray those beans with a coffee aroma and beans are curved into beans.
Should you even wonder about why coffee taste so horrible?
It is fraud!Just like majority of tasteless -artificial, plastic American food is. Do the vegetables and fruits smell and taste like they should? Of course, not! They are completely tasteless and don&#039;t even have any aroma. Why? because they were inorganically grown, irradiated, and genetically altered. Thus, everything taste like a grass. Nutritional value? Zero!
As saying goes, &quot; One apple a day , keeps a Doctor away!&quot;. Really? May I correct this, &quot; One apple a day from American supermarkets, brings a Dentist on your way!&quot;. Even apples are tasteless, they are so tough that unless you have some strong teeth, biting into apple guarantee you a broken set of teeth.
When I visited Italy and Austria, I was a coffee addict. Their coffee as well as food is organic , well-cooked. They have a simple vending machine , just like we have in offices with about 7 different types of coffee. They all taste different and are absolutely delicious. One small cup of coffee and you are completely waken up! During the Era of the Soviet Union. Ukraine also had a great coffee. One could have gone to any cafe and get a real coffee.
So, as for the USA !!!! When food is artificial, nothing taste right ! Nutritious value is zero. You want a good food, than you might want to visit European deli, be prepared to have a wallet with hundreds of dollars. Everything is very expensive there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Let me tell you the simplest secret why coffee taste so bad!!!! It is not coffee at all. It has neither taste nor aroma of a real coffee. I have tasted every brand of coffee, including Starbucks, even tried so-called Organic coffee. You know what ?They all taste horrible. Either you buy from Aldi or from World Market, they are all the same. They are either tasteless bitter-tasteless, or simply taste like smoked cigarette tobacco. What it is , I think is some kind of a hybrid (mix of grass and artificial coffee beans). As of why you might ask me does coffee beans looks like beans and smell like coffee before you brew them? My best bet is that manufacturers simply spray those beans with a coffee aroma and beans are curved into beans.<br />
Should you even wonder about why coffee taste so horrible?<br />
It is fraud!Just like majority of tasteless -artificial, plastic American food is. Do the vegetables and fruits smell and taste like they should? Of course, not! They are completely tasteless and don&#8217;t even have any aroma. Why? because they were inorganically grown, irradiated, and genetically altered. Thus, everything taste like a grass. Nutritional value? Zero!<br />
As saying goes, &#8221; One apple a day , keeps a Doctor away!&#8221;. Really? May I correct this, &#8221; One apple a day from American supermarkets, brings a Dentist on your way!&#8221;. Even apples are tasteless, they are so tough that unless you have some strong teeth, biting into apple guarantee you a broken set of teeth.<br />
When I visited Italy and Austria, I was a coffee addict. Their coffee as well as food is organic , well-cooked. They have a simple vending machine , just like we have in offices with about 7 different types of coffee. They all taste different and are absolutely delicious. One small cup of coffee and you are completely waken up! During the Era of the Soviet Union. Ukraine also had a great coffee. One could have gone to any cafe and get a real coffee.<br />
So, as for the USA !!!! When food is artificial, nothing taste right ! Nutritious value is zero. You want a good food, than you might want to visit European deli, be prepared to have a wallet with hundreds of dollars. Everything is very expensive there.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 15:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can say, with no fear of contradiction, that the coffee in the UK is usually amongst the worst in the world.

  This is particularly frustrating because we have a proliferation of really good quality espresso machines and grinder in cafes and restaurants nut there is little or no knowledge, training or care to go along with them.

  The vast majority of Brits, customers and staff, have no concept of what constitutes Espresso, Cappuccino either as parts or a whole. I  can genuinely say that in the UK I have NEVER seen a decent espresso pour (always a gusher or a dripper), decent beans (always a fully hopper of grounds), or a properly constructed cappuccino (milk with froth scooped off the top of the pitcher anyone!)

 You all know what i&#039;m talking about .

 Whew, nice to have a rant, but really, aaaarhh!!

 And i&#039;m not sure if this will ever change. Customers accept it and shop staff don&#039;t know any better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can say, with no fear of contradiction, that the coffee in the UK is usually amongst the worst in the world.</p>
<p>  This is particularly frustrating because we have a proliferation of really good quality espresso machines and grinder in cafes and restaurants nut there is little or no knowledge, training or care to go along with them.</p>
<p>  The vast majority of Brits, customers and staff, have no concept of what constitutes Espresso, Cappuccino either as parts or a whole. I  can genuinely say that in the UK I have NEVER seen a decent espresso pour (always a gusher or a dripper), decent beans (always a fully hopper of grounds), or a properly constructed cappuccino (milk with froth scooped off the top of the pitcher anyone!)</p>
<p> You all know what i&#8217;m talking about .</p>
<p> Whew, nice to have a rant, but really, aaaarhh!!</p>
<p> And i&#8217;m not sure if this will ever change. Customers accept it and shop staff don&#8217;t know any better.</p>
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		<title>By: Hels</title>
		<link>http://www.jimseven.com/2006/07/31/5-reasons-your-coffee-tastes-bad/#comment-89</link>
		<dc:creator>Hels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 19:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jim,
Pointed here by Philll - and especially loving the photography!  More please!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jim,<br />
Pointed here by Philll &#8211; and especially loving the photography!  More please!</p>
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		<title>By: blanco</title>
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		<dc:creator>blanco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 02:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i dunno, jim.  water?  where&#039;s the mention of pure, fresh water?  you could certainly lump &quot;stale&quot; in there under &quot;poor quality&quot; (along with many other poor quality issues.  but water just seems like something we all need to keep close eye on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dunno, jim.  water?  where&#8217;s the mention of pure, fresh water?  you could certainly lump &#8220;stale&#8221; in there under &#8220;poor quality&#8221; (along with many other poor quality issues.  but water just seems like something we all need to keep close eye on.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen - it is a combination of lazy roasting and buying on origin alone - no traceability just the Mexican that whoever has in stock that comes out cheaper on the comparison sheets.
I think there are enough farms doing a good job, and that would obviously increase if the demand was there allowing them to justify the necessary spend on the process.
And yes, I will be in Trieste in November.  Quite tempted to go and see the nice people at Illycaffe whilst I am there too.

blueskiesfade - you want to try http://www.hasbean.co.uk - everything there is exceptional.

Alistair - In a sealed bag, with a valve, then up to three weeks is tolerable.  I respect Matthew Algie for putting on a roasted date, and a date three weeks after under the title of &quot;The gates of espresso heaven close on:&quot;

Sadly coffee is driven by cost, which means it will always be bought and sold in bulk, often in unnecessarily large quantities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen &#8211; it is a combination of lazy roasting and buying on origin alone &#8211; no traceability just the Mexican that whoever has in stock that comes out cheaper on the comparison sheets.<br />
I think there are enough farms doing a good job, and that would obviously increase if the demand was there allowing them to justify the necessary spend on the process.<br />
And yes, I will be in Trieste in November.  Quite tempted to go and see the nice people at Illycaffe whilst I am there too.</p>
<p>blueskiesfade &#8211; you want to try <a href="http://www.hasbean.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.hasbean.co.uk</a> &#8211; everything there is exceptional.</p>
<p>Alistair &#8211; In a sealed bag, with a valve, then up to three weeks is tolerable.  I respect Matthew Algie for putting on a roasted date, and a date three weeks after under the title of &#8220;The gates of espresso heaven close on:&#8221;</p>
<p>Sadly coffee is driven by cost, which means it will always be bought and sold in bulk, often in unnecessarily large quantities.</p>
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		<title>By: Alistair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alistair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 21:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn’t agree more, 5 very valid points. On the question of stale coffee, when is coffee past its best? Most large roasters give 12 months life (the Italians try to push it to 24 months), smaller roasters sometimes stamp 6 months. Surely if we want to start promoting the fact that coffee has a very short life we should be saying 4 weeks and then throw it away! It seems as an industry everyone (even those who know better) like to hide from the truth. Saw a bag of Monmouth coffee in my local deli the other day, on the back it said best consumed within 4 weeks of roasting, the roasting date was 5 weeks ago. I pointed this out to the owner and I was told that the coffee had only just arrived that week! Freshly roasted, but not necessarily freshly consumed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn’t agree more, 5 very valid points. On the question of stale coffee, when is coffee past its best? Most large roasters give 12 months life (the Italians try to push it to 24 months), smaller roasters sometimes stamp 6 months. Surely if we want to start promoting the fact that coffee has a very short life we should be saying 4 weeks and then throw it away! It seems as an industry everyone (even those who know better) like to hide from the truth. Saw a bag of Monmouth coffee in my local deli the other day, on the back it said best consumed within 4 weeks of roasting, the roasting date was 5 weeks ago. I pointed this out to the owner and I was told that the coffee had only just arrived that week! Freshly roasted, but not necessarily freshly consumed!</p>
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		<title>By: Freddy</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I am not going to be a hypocrite and say that I have never traveled down the starbucks path, drinking there Misto / Cafe au Lait. Eww I hated myself for it. I felt as if I just received my members only snob card, and now the rest of the snooty social club felt the need to come converse with me about how they love there starbucks, and asking me how long have I been drinking it like it was the best kept secret of the land, making fun of everyone who hasn&#039;t made the cross over to starbucks, speaking to me as if they were the teacher and I were the student mentoring me of the different types of flavors. Then talking about starbucks as if it were an oasis for the coffee drinking community,. I get fifteen minutes of quiet time and I made the mistake of going into one of these automaton coffee shops. Needless to say, since that mind boggling experience, I like to think that I have been on the front lines of the anti starbucks movement. So for everyone who feels the same as I do and for all of you starbucks fans, here’s some food for thought -- have you seen the new Eight O’Clock coffee commercials at www.eightoclock.com? Eight O’Clock Coffee’s Original Ground Coffee was preferred over Starbucks® House Blend Ground Coffee in blind taste tests  -- beat that! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I am not going to be a hypocrite and say that I have never traveled down the starbucks path, drinking there Misto / Cafe au Lait. Eww I hated myself for it. I felt as if I just received my members only snob card, and now the rest of the snooty social club felt the need to come converse with me about how they love there starbucks, and asking me how long have I been drinking it like it was the best kept secret of the land, making fun of everyone who hasn&#8217;t made the cross over to starbucks, speaking to me as if they were the teacher and I were the student mentoring me of the different types of flavors. Then talking about starbucks as if it were an oasis for the coffee drinking community,. I get fifteen minutes of quiet time and I made the mistake of going into one of these automaton coffee shops. Needless to say, since that mind boggling experience, I like to think that I have been on the front lines of the anti starbucks movement. So for everyone who feels the same as I do and for all of you starbucks fans, here’s some food for thought &#8212; have you seen the new Eight O’Clock coffee commercials at <a href="http://www.eightoclock.com?" rel="nofollow">http://www.eightoclock.com?</a> Eight O’Clock Coffee’s Original Ground Coffee was preferred over Starbucks® House Blend Ground Coffee in blind taste tests  &#8212; beat that! :)</p>
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